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One Piece Brook & Soul Solid - Can they cut Logia users?
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Brook & Soul Solid - Can they cut Logia users?

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Brook can enhance his sword "Soul Solid" with his DF ability. The energy of his soul brings the "very cold of the underworld into this world", resulting in the sword being freezing cold -> Brook gave it the name "Freezing Sword"

Do you think Brook is able to cut Logia users now?

Out of pure laziness, this thread was not be credited by @Ultimatespoon ... (ah the good old times ;) )





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RE: Brook & Soul Solid - Can they cut Logia users?

With Haki definitely, without Haki and just with his devil fruit ability I think he can not cut or touch the Logia user's real body.




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(01-04-2014 02:03 AM)Kaiser Wrote:  With Haki definitely, without Haki and just with his devil fruit ability I think he can not cut or touch the Logia user's real body.
So far there were 4 ways to touch Logia users:

1. Using the Darkness Fruit, so that only applies to Teach
2. Using Sea Stone, that mostly applies to Marines & WG officials
3. Using Haki - You need to be a least Vice-Admiral level to be able to use it, so not everyone can use it
4. Somehow using the counterpart of the opponent's DF: E.g. Sand - Water/Blood, Fire - Magma, Smoke - Fire, Lightning - Rubber, etc. This is vary limited and very, very rare tho

How about a 5th way? Brook is using the very cold of the underworld on his sword, "Soul Solid". Every human has a soul, doesnt matter if Logia or not^^ If Brook can use the soul power of his DF ability to get "soul energy" from the underworld, then maybe his sword can "touch" the soul of the living as well -> Cutting everyone, no matter the DF ability.





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(01-09-2014 01:05 AM)Gobee129 Wrote:  
(01-04-2014 02:03 AM)Kaiser Wrote:  With Haki definitely, without Haki and just with his devil fruit ability I think he can not cut or touch the Logia user's real body.
So far there were 4 ways to touch Logia users:



1. Using the Darkness Fruit, so that only applies to Teach

2. Using Sea Stone, that mostly applies to Marines & WG officials

3. Using Haki - You need to be a least Vice-Admiral level to be able to use it, so not everyone can use it

4. Somehow using the counterpart of the opponent's DF: E.g. Sand - Water/Blood, Fire - Magma, Smoke - Fire, Lightning - Rubber, etc. This is vary limited and very, very rare tho



How about a 5th way? Brook is using the very cold of the underworld on his sword, "Soul Solid". Every human has a soul, doesnt matter if Logia or not^^ If Brook can use the soul power of his DF ability to get "soul energy" from the underworld, then maybe his sword can "touch" the soul of the living as well -> Cutting everyone, no matter the DF ability.
It depends if his sword fighting style is his own development or if it's based on his df ability. I'm not quite sure to be honest but I guess it's his own technique so with Haki he can cut logia users. If it's based on his df he won't be able to cut logia users except if he is also able to put Haki on his df based attacks somehow. I don't think that it is "so cold" that he can touch the opponent's soul aka their real bodies.





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RE: Brook & Soul Solid - Can they cut Logia users?

(01-09-2014 04:11 PM)Kaiser Wrote:  It depends if his sword fighting style is his own development or if it's based on his df ability. I'm not quite sure to be honest but I guess it's his own technique so with Haki he can cut logia users. If it's based on his df he won't be able to cut logia users except if he is also able to put Haki on his df based attacks somehow. I don't think that it is "so cold" that he can touch the opponent's soul aka their real bodies.

Normally I would agree with you, but I wanna throw another idea into the mix: Not every Straw Hat should be able to use Haki. That means for now, only the big 3 can fight Logia users, the rest has to run away^^ Using my above mentioned idea to "cut souls with soul-energy", Oda could introduce a new way for a Straw Hat to, at least some extent, fight a Logia user. We saw it with Rubber vs Lightning and Water vs. Sand before, Oda relies on different occurrences every now and then. He could use this scheme again, this time for Brook.
I doubt he will resolve every future fight where a Logia is involved with Haki or a different Logia. I'm sure he finds some different ways, because using Haki all the time lacks diversity.





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RE: Brook & Soul Solid - Can they cut Logia users?

@Gobee129 there might a theory why it's called "devil-fruit", they might loose there physical body for a period of time so they are immune to attacks, so If this is correct then it would be impossible for even brook to cut people's soul!!





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RE: Brook & Soul Solid - Can they cut Logia users?

Well maybe he can freeze part of the Logia users body with his sword and cut that part... But I don't think that he can touch a logia user otherwise.





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RE: Brook & Soul Solid - Can they cut Logia users?

(01-09-2014 01:05 AM)Gobee129 Wrote:  So far there were 4 ways to touch Logia users:

1. Using the Darkness Fruit, so that only applies to Teach
2. Using Sea Stone, that mostly applies to Marines & WG officials
3. Using Haki - You need to be a least Vice-Admiral level to be able to use it, so not everyone can use it
4. Somehow using the counterpart of the opponent's DF: E.g. Sand - Water/Blood, Fire - Magma, Smoke - Fire, Lightning - Rubber, etc. This is vary limited and very, very rare tho

If the Logia users caught off guard, they can be hit right??





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(03-08-2014 12:59 PM)Yellow Flash Wrote:  
(01-09-2014 01:05 AM)Gobee129 Wrote:  So far there were 4 ways to touch Logia users:

1. Using the Darkness Fruit, so that only applies to Teach
2. Using Sea Stone, that mostly applies to Marines & WG officials
3. Using Haki - You need to be a least Vice-Admiral level to be able to use it, so not everyone can use it
4. Somehow using the counterpart of the opponent's DF: E.g. Sand - Water/Blood, Fire - Magma, Smoke - Fire, Lightning - Rubber, etc. This is vary limited and very, very rare tho

If the Logia users caught off guard, they can be hit right??

Not sure on that. Check out this thread: Touching Logias





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RE: Brook & Soul Solid - Can they cut Logia users?

I'd like to think this idea would work out, just not much supporting it. Wish there was. Seeing Brook take on some heavy-hitters would be great. I love Soul Solid, the ice effect is extremely cool. Without haki, I'd imagine it might come down to Brook's level of skill with his DF power and swordsmanship, versus the level of skill the logia user he's fighting has. If a higher skill DF power can take on a haki user (Law cutting Vergo), and a high level haki user can take on a lower skill DF, I would imagine a higher level DF power canpossibly take on a lower skill DF user, even if that user is a logia.





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