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One Piece [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?
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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

(01-10-2014 01:16 AM)Gobee129 Wrote:  
(01-04-2014 02:01 AM)Kaiser Wrote:  We know the battle lasted for 10 days but it's not directly stated that it was an equal battle. I think that they didn't just fight for 10 days straight, they must have talked a lot in order to stop the opponent of wanting the Fleet Admiral position.
As for the battle itself, Haki is already the answer. Both have much endurance and both used Haki all the time. In the end, the one with less endurance couldn't keep his Haki level and lost the fight.
We do know it was an equal fight, because Jinbe mentioned that both men were seriously wounded.

And about Haki: We havent seen Logia attacks with Haki yet. The fact that Punk Hazard was changed drastically in appearance, shows that both were using their Logia powers with outmost intensity. We could theorize about Haki embedded Logia attacks now, or how Logia users are able to avoid Haki.

Akainu was unwounded after Haki embedded attacks by Vista and Marco. There is quite a lot mystery left for me.

Yes it was a equal battle




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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

If aokiji's ice is really that strong then I actually see akainu preparing a magma fist and maybe Aokiji (being a badass) freezing the fist and sooo it went on and on with Akainu's magma being the strongest and winning





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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

I really dun like Akainu....Like... At all QWQ




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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

aokiji could hold up against his natural predator for 10 days while akainu could beat ace in 1 minute because magma was hotter than fire (it's not) there must be huge gap between aokiji's and akainus haki also, we can see how aokiji made magma meteor disappear with 1 hand. don't say taht fight didn't last for 10 days only fight who lasted days could do that kind of thing to sky,weather,and land. aokiji beat akainu. akainu was on ground aokiji turned away and akainu attacked him from behind (like he does it lot of times), aokiji was near death and akainu went home told everybody he beat aokiji he didn't say he cheated because he wanted to be fleet admiral and that's why everybody thinks akainu won :)




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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

(06-11-2015 09:24 PM)bluephoenix Wrote:  aokiji could hold up against his natural predator for 10 days while akainu could beat ace in 1 minute because magma was hotter than fire (it's not) there must be huge gap between aokiji's and akainus haki also, we can see how aokiji made magma meteor disappear with 1 hand. don't say taht fight didn't last for 10 days only fight who lasted days could do that kind of thing to sky,weather,and land. aokiji beat akainu. akainu was on ground aokiji turned away and akainu attacked him from behind (like he does it lot of times), aokiji was near death and akainu went home told everybody he beat aokiji he didn't say he cheated because he wanted to be fleet admiral and that's why everybody thinks akainu won :)

Or Akainu is just a bit stronger than Aokiji :o





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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

I believe aokiji was better at using his df ability but aokiji ice nature was weak against akainu's magma , that's why fight lasted for 10 days





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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

(06-11-2015 09:33 PM)Kaiser Wrote:  
(06-11-2015 09:24 PM)bluephoenix Wrote:  aokiji could hold up against his natural predator for 10 days while akainu could beat ace in 1 minute because magma was hotter than fire (it's not) there must be huge gap between aokiji's and akainus haki also, we can see how aokiji made magma meteor disappear with 1 hand. don't say taht fight didn't last for 10 days only fight who lasted days could do that kind of thing to sky,weather,and land. aokiji beat akainu. akainu was on ground aokiji turned away and akainu attacked him from behind (like he does it lot of times), aokiji was near death and akainu went home told everybody he beat aokiji he didn't say he cheated because he wanted to be fleet admiral and that's why everybody thinks akainu won :)

Or Akainu is just a bit stronger than Aokiji :o

i don't belive that fight lasted for 10 days and fight was EQUAL and aokiji lost his leg and got his neck and shoulder burnt...no just no akainu must've cheated




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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

(06-13-2015 09:55 PM)bluephoenix Wrote:  
(06-11-2015 09:33 PM)Kaiser Wrote:  
(06-11-2015 09:24 PM)bluephoenix Wrote:  aokiji could hold up against his natural predator for 10 days while akainu could beat ace in 1 minute because magma was hotter than fire (it's not) there must be huge gap between aokiji's and akainus haki also, we can see how aokiji made magma meteor disappear with 1 hand. don't say taht fight didn't last for 10 days only fight who lasted days could do that kind of thing to sky,weather,and land. aokiji beat akainu. akainu was on ground aokiji turned away and akainu attacked him from behind (like he does it lot of times), aokiji was near death and akainu went home told everybody he beat aokiji he didn't say he cheated because he wanted to be fleet admiral and that's why everybody thinks akainu won :)

Or Akainu is just a bit stronger than Aokiji :o

i don't belive that fight lasted for 10 days and fight was EQUAL and aokiji lost his leg and got his neck and shoulder burnt...no just no akainu must've cheated

Akainu's magma melts Aokiji's ice, Aokiji's ice solidifies Akainu's magma
This reason is enough for the fight to last this long





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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

Aokiji vs. Akainu Personalities:
Garp and Sengoku both recommended Aokiji to be the next fleet admiral. Not just for his sense of justice, but as well as his compassion to guide the marines to true justice. An example would be when he saved Nico Robin from the buster call when she was a wanted child. Akainu is strict and merciless because he cannot accept any weakness from himself, hence a sign of insecurity. He believes that the law is absolute and those that defy it are not "good". Akainu probably lost someone close because of his mercy at one point, and he views it as weakness. Aokiji probably was holding back or going around 90%-98% to show that power isn't everything, but was backstabbed/sucker punched when the fight was supposedly "over".

Aokiji vs Akainu Actual Fight:
Aokiji has better movement speed than Akainu. Akainu is a more direct fighter and has stronger attacks than Aokiji. However, if Akainu makes contact, Aokiji can easily position his body to absorb more contact or counterstrike right back at Akainu. I'm pretty sure both their DF and haki are on par with each other, thus neutralizing each other. However, Aokiji has a broader striking range than Akainu, which is the FACTOR of this battle. Aokiji would never seriously be injured because he doesn't need to be close to Akainu, and since Aokiji is quicker and probably faster, Akainu had to throw a sucker punch to win.

Aokiji vs Akainu Politics: Aokiji knows that even if he wins, Akainu won't change. Thus, he left the marines because he is proving that power that comes from a title alone cannot change the world. (Garp rejected being an Admiral, but that doesn't make him weak). Aokiji genuinely wants the world to be a better place. While, Akainu just wants to be fleet admiral bc he hates pirates for something that they did to him in the past. Akainu prob couldn't let go of his anger towards himself and did not want Aokiji to win by showing him compassion like he prob once did to a pirate, and decided to take out Aokiji's leg to show that the world is cruel. By doing this, he is justifying his "lack of mercy" as the solution for the injustice in the world. Aokiji seemed to be happier after leaving the WG and joining the opposing Revolution Army, which showed he understood that the WG is not true justice.

Overall, Aokiji is sympathetic and more understanding than Akainu as shown from leaving Luffy alive the first time they fought and saving Robin from the Buster Call. If Akainu were to fight Aokiji again, I doubt he can win twice.[/b]




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RE: [Battle Theory] Akainu vs. Aokiji - What happened?

Besides Haki & regular DF skill, we should also consider the possibility that they fought with Awakening. I saw one comment on fb I liked, which said that:

"The reason Oda didnt show anything of Aokiji vs. Akainu was because they fought with Awakened Logias, and at that point in time, we didn't even know what Awakening was. Oda didnt wanna spoil us with a too early introduction of the DF Awakening."

I find that quite a worthwhile thought.

-> http://www.marineford.com/Thread-One-Pie...ened-Logia

Not just the Awakening, Oda might still have more new powers up his sleeve, and since Aokiji and Akainu are both top tiers, they'd use those powers in battle, hence Oda cannot show it to us too soon, to not reveal the new powers we will see in OP's future.





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