(08-08-2014 02:35 AM)CodeZero Wrote:
(08-08-2014 01:29 AM)Gobee129 Wrote: It's not at all. Losing strength is exactly what I said:
(08-06-2014 04:18 PM)Gobee129 Wrote: Kairoseki mirrors the effects of water (Oda confirmed it can be any kind of water, not just seawater). If Brook takes a deep bath, he would die according to you, since the water would paralyze Brook, making him unable to use his DF, thus the soul would be unable to support his life -> death.
I know that the DF ability is not "gone", but the user cannot use it anymore either. I have a pretty good hang on how this works by now, as seen in my previous post. Brook will not die, no matter what you do to him. He can only die by getting his bones' crushed or probably when his second lifespan reaches an end as well (tho that's just a guess).
Brook getting paralyzed is not the same as him losing his abilities. That's just him getting weaker.
Dude... Didnt I just say exactly that? Do u read my post? :/
"I know that the DF ability is not "gone", but the user cannot use it anymore either."
He gets paralyzed, he cannot use it! It's still there, the ability is not gone, but still he is paralzyed and cannot use it. That's the exact same thing as getting weaker. When Luffy drowns or touches Kairoseki (e.g. in Alabasta in Croco's cage), he loses his strength, he gets paralzyed, he cannot use his ability anymore, even tho it's still there. Why do you write "Brook getting paralyzed is not the same as him losing his abilities. That's just him getting weaker.
"? We already answered that question and you ask it again...
When did I ever say it's the same as losing his abilities? I even said "I know that the DF ability is not "gone"".^^ I should have locked this thread after our pacemaker convo, which was still top quality.
These FAQ are all simple facts, there is no arguing. Your pacemaker idea about Brook was nice, but I already disproved it.
Maybe we have a different understanding of this whole paralyzing/weakened DF state thing, doesnt really matter. What matters is that u said getting touched by Kairoseki or BB would kill Brook, and you said getting touched by water wouldnt. That's inconsistent.
1.) Water and Kairoseki are the exact same thing. I dont know why you make such a difference between them. You can make a difference between e.g. BB, Haki and Water/Kairoseki, but not between water & Kairoseki themselves. Proof:
OP Wiki: "It was stated by Vice Admiral Smoker that Seastone "gives off a wavelength that is the same as the sea itself" making him refer to it as a solid form of the sea." -> Seastone = Water