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One Piece 2.2) Rumor: Jozu is a Logia user
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2.2) Rumor: Jozu is a Logia user

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Fact: Jozu is a Paramecia. Contrary to Magellan, Jozu is able to turn into his “element” (Diamond), but he can not disperse any diamonds from his body (e.g. he can’t shoot diamonds at his enemies). He also lacks the ability to rejoin bodyparts, since he is unable to replace the right arm he lost at Marineford.

Source: Chapter 590 - Jozu's arm remains missing – thus confirming he’s a Paramecia-type

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RE: 2.2) Rumor: Jozu is a Logia user

No , he can't be . Diamond is not an element . So it is paramecia . Even thought it says that for the paramecia , the look of the body does not change . And Jozu does . But still his devil fruit would have to be element to be a logia .




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RE: 2.2) Rumor: Jozu is a Logia user

(10-09-2014 04:44 AM)Onepiecestars Wrote:  No , he can't be . Diamond is not an element . So it is paramecia . Even thought it says that for the paramecia , the look of the body does not change . And Jozu does . But still his devil fruit would have to be element to be a logia .

Well, to be fair, "wax" isn't exactly an element either, but that's still considered a Logia, so that argument can't really be used.





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(10-09-2014 07:13 AM)CodeZero Wrote:  "wax" isn't exactly an element either, but that's still considered a Logia, so that argument can't really be used.

mr 3 isnt consider as a logia user, mr.3 is considered as a Paramecia User. you can see here

tho you are right that there are some logia DF who are not "elements" like: yami yami no mi, beta beta no mi and numa numa no mi.
so your argument is still valid :)


i wold also like to add that the fact that jozu lost an arm dosnt mean anything about him being a lugia user.
an example of a lugia user who lost orgens is kuzan (aka Aokiji) who lost his leg, meaning that also strong lugia users in rare situations can loss their orgens.

i have never though about jozu as a logia user and i still think of him as a paramecia DF user, but now i dont think its impossible for him to be a logia DF user (tho that his lack of using logia DF powers and only useing his DF only as another skin/shield is make him look more as a paramecia then logia :P )





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RE: 2.2) Rumor: Jozu is a Logia user

(10-09-2014 10:20 AM)mheh Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 07:13 AM)CodeZero Wrote:  "wax" isn't exactly an element either, but that's still considered a Logia, so that argument can't really be used.

mr 3 isnt consider as a logia user, mr.3 is considered as a Paramecia User. you can see here

tho you are right that there are some logia DF who are not "elements" like: yami yami no mi, beta beta no mi and numa numa no mi.
so your argument is still valid :)

Oh right, touché XDD





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RE: 2.2) Rumor: Jozu is a Logia user

(10-09-2014 10:20 AM)mheh Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 07:13 AM)CodeZero Wrote:  "wax" isn't exactly an element either, but that's still considered a Logia, so that argument can't really be used.

mr 3 isnt consider as a logia user, mr.3 is considered as a Paramecia User. you can see here

tho you are right that there are some logia DF who are not "elements" like: yami yami no mi, beta beta no mi and numa numa no mi.
so your argument is still valid :)


i wold also like to add that the fact that jozu lost an arm dosnt mean anything about him being a lugia user.
an example of a lugia user who lost orgens is kuzan (aka Aokiji) who lost his leg, meaning that also strong lugia users in rare situations can loss their orgens.

i have never though about jozu as a logia user and i still think of him as a paramecia DF user, but now i dont think its impossible for him to be a logia DF user (tho that his lack of using logia DF powers and only useing his DF only as another skin/shield is make him look more as a paramecia then logia :P )

This is wrong as well. Aokiji lost a leg but he was able to create an ice prosthesis:

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See? So he was able to create Ice out of nothing, because he is a Logia, and like I mentioned in the beginning, Logias can create their element as well as transform into it. Jozu however can only transform into his element, he can not create diamond. Proof: His arm -> He didnt create a diamond arm (as seen in the 1st picture of this thread). If Jozu were a Logia, he could have created diamond out of nothing, and formed a diamond arm attached to his body, exactly like Aokiji did with his ice leg. He didnt do that -> He is no Logia.





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RE: 2.2) Rumor: Jozu is a Logia user

Yeah Jozu is definitely a Paramecia he doesn't have the abilities that Logia's have with their DF's.





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RE: 2.2) Rumor: Jozu is a Logia user

Some DF are just way too confusing. Especially Magellan and Jozu's DF. Jozu is apparently a Paramecia!





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RE: 2.2) Rumor: Jozu is a Logia user

(10-09-2014 02:15 PM)Gobee129 Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 10:20 AM)mheh Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 07:13 AM)CodeZero Wrote:  "wax" isn't exactly an element either, but that's still considered a Logia, so that argument can't really be used.

mr 3 isnt consider as a logia user, mr.3 is considered as a Paramecia User. you can see here

tho you are right that there are some logia DF who are not "elements" like: yami yami no mi, beta beta no mi and numa numa no mi.
so your argument is still valid :)


i wold also like to add that the fact that jozu lost an arm dosnt mean anything about him being a lugia user.
an example of a lugia user who lost orgens is kuzan (aka Aokiji) who lost his leg, meaning that also strong lugia users in rare situations can loss their orgens.

i have never though about jozu as a logia user and i still think of him as a paramecia DF user, but now i dont think its impossible for him to be a logia DF user (tho that his lack of using logia DF powers and only useing his DF only as another skin/shield is make him look more as a paramecia then logia :P )

This is wrong as well. Aokiji lost a leg but he was able to create an ice prosthesis:

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See? So he was able to create Ice out of nothing, because he is a Logia, and like I mentioned in the beginning, Logias can create their element as well as transform into it. Jozu however can only transform into his element, he can not create diamond. Proof: His arm -> He didnt create a diamond arm (as seen in the 1st picture of this thread). If Jozu were a Logia, he could have created diamond out of nothing, and formed a diamond arm attached to his body, exactly like Aokiji did with his ice leg. He didnt do that -> He is no Logia.
Geez
thanks for the explaination
it always confused me while reading

(11-22-2015 01:56 PM)ad54 Wrote:  Yeah Jozu is definitely a Paramecia he doesn't have the abilities that Logia's have with their DF's.
Yeah that makes sense
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(11-28-2015 12:47 AM)Saji D Ahsan Wrote:  Some DF are just way too confusing. Especially Magellan and Jozu's DF. Jozu is apparently a Paramecia!
You got a point there





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