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Episode 86 - Fists Cross For The First Time! Android No. 17 Vs. Son Goku!!

Dragon Ball Super Episode 86 is out!

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What did you think of this week's episode?





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RE: Episode 86 - Fists Cross For The First Time! Android No. 17 Vs. Son Goku!!

There was a moment when android 17 clashed with ssj4 goku. How come this was their first clash and when goku said he's gotten stronger and is hiding his strength. Did he mean from when his clash as ssj4 ?




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RE: Episode 86 - Fists Cross For The First Time! Android No. 17 Vs. Son Goku!!

(04-16-2017 10:07 AM)NevermorE Wrote:  There was a moment when android 17 clashed with ssj4 goku. How come this was their first clash and when goku said he's gotten stronger and is hiding his strength. Did he mean from when his clash as ssj4 ?
It wasn't #17, it was Super 17. Two different characters, even with #17 a being fusee of Super 17.
Dragon Ball Super plays several years before DBGT, the clash between Super 17 and Goku didn't happen yet.
DBGT is pretty much non-canon by now, with the events of Super rendering many events of GT either impossible or just extremely unfitting and unlikely. Thus are their neither SSJ4 nor Super 17 in canon.





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RE: Episode 86 - Fists Cross For The First Time! Android No. 17 Vs. Son Goku!!

Damn 17 was able to fight against Goku's SSJ Blue form and is "still" hiding a lot more power?
Talk about development!! @NevermorE GT is non-cannon, Toei Animation made it just to end the series, Toriyama did have involvement in it, but he never created a manga for GT so consider that GT never was part of the story.

It was a good episode.





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RE: Episode 86 - Fists Cross For The First Time! Android No. 17 Vs. Son Goku!!

So Android 17 is God Tier now? That's just messed up. :3 But I like it.





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RE: Episode 86 - Fists Cross For The First Time! Android No. 17 Vs. Son Goku!!

this episode was like stupid to me. how can android 17 be saying he has been training. it sounds stupid. more over hw can they make 17 to be evenly match with ssgss (super sayian god super sayian) blue. that insane. so it means this guy was fighting guys far beyond imagination. how can that possible. i didnt expect it like dat. even though he is trying to check at their skills the tournament of power they should exagerate things.

moreover cant goku just go ss3. this guys are not even emphasizing on the other super transformations, it makes the battle look a lame.




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RE: Episode 86 - Fists Cross For The First Time! Android No. 17 Vs. Son Goku!!

(04-21-2017 11:02 AM)kaiser01 Wrote:  this episode was like stupid to me. how can android 17 be saying he has been training. it sounds stupid.

Why is 17 saying he trained stupid? Everybody trains in Dragon Ball.





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(04-21-2017 11:10 AM)Fulcrum Wrote:  
(04-21-2017 11:02 AM)kaiser01 Wrote:  this episode was like stupid to me. how can android 17 be saying he has been training. it sounds stupid.

Why is 17 saying he trained stupid? Everybody trains in Dragon Ball.

i know every one trains in db. i was refering to the poiint to which they made him to be evenly matched to ssgss. as him saying " i has been training". it sounds i like he has like he outclasses goku now. since they were even




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RE: Episode 86 - Fists Cross For The First Time! Android No. 17 Vs. Son Goku!!

(04-21-2017 11:37 AM)kaiser01 Wrote:  
(04-21-2017 11:10 AM)Fulcrum Wrote:  
(04-21-2017 11:02 AM)kaiser01 Wrote:  this episode was like stupid to me. how can android 17 be saying he has been training. it sounds stupid.

Why is 17 saying he trained stupid? Everybody trains in Dragon Ball.

i know every one trains in db. i was refering to the poiint to which they made him to be evenly matched to ssgss. as him saying " i has been training". it sounds i like he has like he outclasses goku now. since they were even

Well that happens in DB. Picollo became at least 5 times stronger between Raditz and Vegeta saga without fighting any serious opponent. Only by training. Goku became at least 6 times stronger in between Vegeta and Namek only by training. Golden Frieza and Frieza. Or that stupid SJ thing when they become stronger just because they fight strong people even if they get their ass handed to them.

17 is a robot made to fight and had several years to train. That's a lot.

I mean it is stupid by human logic, yeah. But these stuff happen in DB the whole time. So by DB standards it's not stupid.





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RE: Episode 86 - Fists Cross For The First Time! Android No. 17 Vs. Son Goku!!

such things always happen in db but man. u cannot tell me that 17 is normally suppose to fight on equal grounds against blue. come on man. is that even possible. its like saying that 17 can fight beerus. let me not go far jiren or toppo. or even hit or even vegeta. boy try to look at it again well. and 17 might have spent 5 to 7 years training but goku was training with whis and even used the time of chambers to improve for hit and even black. man thats completly insane. if db has made it that 17 could match goku then what do i have to say. but if i were to ask what training did that guy even under go. he matched goku and moreover u heard wat he said. that he is not going full power just for the fact he does not want to destroy the forest or some shit. guy teill me what does that mean. some one trained for 5 to 7 years in the earth withouth using time chamber while another used time chamber to train, trained with whis and stuffs. bro lets reason this out




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